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Discussion of George Gillespie's Wholesome Severity Reconciled with Christian Liberty

Re: WF: Deut.13:6-9
Subject: Re: WF: Deut.13:6-9
From: "Raymond P. Joseph" 
Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:12:34 -0400

At 02:09 PM 5/7/97 -0500, Ed Miles wrote:
>>>Drive through the church parking lots in your city on any given Sunday 
morning taking note of the various bumper stickers which address the
sub-
ject of Bill and Hillary.  What percentage of them enjoin us to pray for
their salvation and rapidly progressing sanctification vs. the
percentage 
that demand impeachment or render derogation in a variety of forms? 
Once 
again, the failure rests squarely upon us, and only residually upon the 
realm.>>>

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Doubtless we are responsible for much of the failure which 
indeed rests upon us.   However, when it comes to Bill and Hillary,
God does not ignore the law of the land;  their character flaws are so
obvious that even non-Christians can see the nature of what is needed:
a trial and conviction for breaking the laws.    This is not to say that
the laws are perfect, or that they are God-based laws;  but simply to
say that God does not ignore them, even if they are manmade.
(The apostle Paul had the city authorities "come and fetch us out"
and stood his ground on the fact that he was a Roman citizen -- even 
though it was hardly a God's Law based society.)   

Thus Bill and Hillary may well face the courts, and take their punishment.

Neither is this to say that we should not pray for their repentance and 
submission in obedience to the laws of God.   Sauls can, after all,
become Pauls.
God has the list of the elect - we do not.  We are to pray for all men,
and
witness the Gospel to all men.    But we should not shirk from calling
for 
justice to be done in the case of our president and his wife.

Ray Joseph